Question About The Drake Drops - Guild Wars Forums

Ians · May 11, 2005, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Ok question is ....Do drakes drop better when the team full of human players other than computer mercs.

I killed a island of drakes group full of human players and they droped about 2 yellow items and about 5 purple ones on one run.

I did the same run with computer played mercs and they drop very very rare never find 1 yellow one when i do them with computer controlled ones and when im lucky only 1 purple drops, and this is after many runs.

Just people been saying they have a better chance drop if there just human played chars in the group just wondering if its true.

Communist Robot · May 11, 2005, 01:05 AM // 01:05

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Originally Posted by Ians

Ok question is ....Do drakes drop better when the team full of human players other than computer mercs.

I killed a island of drakes group full of human players and they droped about 2 yellow items and about 5 purple ones on one run.

I did the same run with computer played mercs and they drop very very rare never find 1 yellow one when i do them with computer controlled ones and when im lucky only 1 purple drops, and this is after many runs.

Just people been saying they have a better chance drop if there just human played chars in the group just wondering if its true.

The deal with henches is, that those items COULD HAVE and probably DID drop, it just doesn't show up when you're with henchmen.
so your drops are still being split six ways with a 6 man group, you just can't tell what you don't get.

EDIT: clearing it up, henchmen drops % = same .. just doesn't show up when something drops.

A11Eur0 · May 11, 2005, 01:06 AM // 01:06

Well the odds that a henchie group will give you rare items and you actually seeing them are slim. Because you hve to divvy up the spoils to 5 other crewmembers. If you have 5 other players, you'll notice more reare drops, because you'll notice more drops overall. I actually got 3 yellow drops doing a mission to Ventari's haven(?). I got one before that trying to do it with idiot team members, before I had to map travel back because 4 of my teammates left. So that makes 4 yellow items in the same area, same mission, in the spanse of a half hour. I was stoked.

Duin · May 11, 2005, 02:21 PM // 14:21

i have noticed that the drop rates do change but as Communist Robot said, the items could have droped, just the henchmen "picked it up" because if u look closely when u pick up gold, the henchmen also get a cut in the profits. so it still is sharing with the Henchmen as if they were regulat pc's

Master Elyas · May 11, 2005, 02:26 PM // 14:26

thats so gay... what the hell are henchies gunna do with uber items? they wear stock stuff for gods sake! SADNESS!!!

Deagol · May 11, 2005, 02:36 PM // 14:36

Aparently, in the beginning (before the BWE's) monsters did make visible drops assigned o the henchmen. It was just so frustrating for the players when they saw some desirable drop they couldn't get that the henchmen drops was made invisible. At least with the other human players, you have a chance to trade for the item.

Master Elyas · May 11, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17

omg... that would of sucked so hardcore... good thing i wasnt an alpha tester eh? i would of FREAKED!!

but then again, Alpha testing would of been proness, cuz they got to play the betas every day, and they are just... gods...

but then again, so are beta testers...

Ramus · May 11, 2005, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by Deagol

Aparently, in the beginning (before the BWE's) monsters did make visible drops assigned o the henchmen. It was just so frustrating for the players when they saw some desirable drop they couldn't get that the henchmen drops was made invisible. At least with the other human players, you have a chance to trade for the item.

Yea, that would have been extremely annoying if it was assigned to your henchmen. That awesome gold hammer of +10 health regen and +50 life and +20% damage drops... and it belongs to your healer! Then you go and cry.

At least it saves you from the dissapointment.

Master Elyas · May 11, 2005, 04:45 PM // 16:45

lol... i *would* go and cry... that would just be so PATHETIC!! i wouldnt be able 2 handle it...

... does anyone have a problem with my "chat-talk"? i got a complaint from some anonymous person... ahem.... politely saying to stop doing it... but, im just so used 2 it, that i cant! so, if anyone has a problem with it, ill try and change.... i should create a poll, and see what ppl think..

wongba · May 11, 2005, 05:14 PM // 17:14

i wish they had kept the drops in actually. all u would have to do is wait awhile for the drops to lose their assigned drop name.

Master Elyas · May 11, 2005, 05:16 PM // 17:16

oh god.. thats right!

thats probably y they changed it..

Marus Varrus · May 11, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Yes say what you wnat but if you think of the henchies as real people they do desrve their cut. ALso it would penalize teams of real players only given a fraction of the loot they would get from partying with AI bots. The way it is now is fair it DOES NOT need to change. I would rather not know what the henchman get.

Master Elyas · May 11, 2005, 05:33 PM // 17:33

but, the henchies are NOT real people... and you SHOULD get EVERY drop...

its not right that the henchies get drops.. and Marcus, i WOULD like to see what the henchies get.. lol

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i just thought of something...

where do the items the henchies get go to?

theres probably like, this HUGE storage thing where all the items go to, and the AN team, and everyone who contributed to making GW can just pick and choose the "uber 1337" items, and pwn us with them.. lol just my thought

Marus Varrus · May 11, 2005, 05:36 PM // 17:36

but master the idea is that they represent real people and if they got nothing from the drops everyone would use henchman to get 6x as much loot than they would partying with friends. It would virtually kill what little community that now exists within the PvE game

Master Elyas · May 11, 2005, 05:41 PM // 17:41

thats true... your right i guess...

Granamyr · May 11, 2005, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Aparently, in the beginning (before the BWE's) monsters did make visible drops assigned o the henchmen.

In the beginning, there weren't henchmen.

Henchmen don't cost any money to "hire" so they take their cut of the loot. Either that or pay them up front. Personally, I'd rather do the latter.

I've never gotten a rare when partied with henchmen and have seen very few purples as well. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of code that altered drops somewhat when partied with henchmen. There's enough anecdotal evidence out there to support this.

Ramus · May 11, 2005, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by Granamyr

In the beginning, there weren't henchmen.

Henchmen don't cost any money to "hire" so they take their cut of the loot. Either that or pay them up front. Personally, I'd rather do the latter.

I've never gotten a rare when partied with henchmen and have seen very few purples as well. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of code that altered drops somewhat when partied with henchmen. There's enough anecdotal evidence out there to support this.

I agree with that, the drop rate is so horrible whenever I am with henchman. I always get at least one-two purples in a drake group. I did not even receive a blue in three henchman runs.

Adaria · May 11, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56

It would be unfair to give us all the gold/items with a band of henchies.

They get paid by the share of gold and items that drop. It is frustrating sure, but it would be moreso to see the items that I cannot have...

There aren't really any 'uber' items anyway, just those that are more valuable merely due to color, like the golden/yellow items that are more valuable than purple, and purple more valuable than blue. The blue might have the same mods as a gold but be worth less due to the color alone...

Interesting way to think about it really...

Master Elyas · May 11, 2005, 07:00 PM // 19:00

yea... i guess the henchies get paid, cuz AN wanted it to be more... realistic.
but, they stopped the realism at the whole money and item thing... henchies should comment on stuff, like, say: "Don't worry Lord Of The Dawn! I'll save you!" or something like that... or, say stuff like rurik does when he goes to fight charr... except not as cheesy...

Zorque · May 11, 2005, 07:52 PM // 19:52

So what is up with the whole drake hunting craze? I was at Gates of Kryta trying to get a party for the mission but everyone just wanted to do Drake runs. Are Drakes the best place to farm items? Seems like there would be even higher level creatures further down the road that drop better items.

May 11, 2005, 01:01 AM // 01:01	#1
Ians Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2005	Question About The Drake Drops Ok question is ....Do drakes drop better when the team full of human players other than computer mercs. I killed a island of drakes group full of human players and they droped about 2 yellow items and about 5 purple ones on one run. I did the same run with computer played mercs and they drop very very rare never find 1 yellow one when i do them with computer controlled ones and when im lucky only 1 purple drops, and this is after many runs. Just people been saying they have a better chance drop if there just human played chars in the group just wondering if its true.

May 11, 2005, 01:06 AM // 01:06	#3
A11Eur0 Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: W/	Well the odds that a henchie group will give you rare items and you actually seeing them are slim. Because you hve to divvy up the spoils to 5 other crewmembers. If you have 5 other players, you'll notice more reare drops, because you'll notice more drops overall. I actually got 3 yellow drops doing a mission to Ventari's haven(?). I got one before that trying to do it with idiot team members, before I had to map travel back because 4 of my teammates left. So that makes 4 yellow items in the same area, same mission, in the spanse of a half hour. I was stoked.

May 11, 2005, 02:21 PM // 14:21	#4
Duin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Hampshire	i have noticed that the drop rates do change but as Communist Robot said, the items could have droped, just the henchmen "picked it up" because if u look closely when u pick up gold, the henchmen also get a cut in the profits. so it still is sharing with the Henchmen as if they were regulat pc's

May 11, 2005, 02:26 PM // 14:26	#5
Master Elyas Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: People Of The Dragon Profession: W/Mo	thats so gay... what the hell are henchies gunna do with uber items? they wear stock stuff for gods sake! SADNESS!!!

May 11, 2005, 02:36 PM // 14:36	#6
Deagol Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denmark	Aparently, in the beginning (before the BWE's) monsters did make visible drops assigned o the henchmen. It was just so frustrating for the players when they saw some desirable drop they couldn't get that the henchmen drops was made invisible. At least with the other human players, you have a chance to trade for the item.

May 11, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17	#7
Master Elyas Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: People Of The Dragon Profession: W/Mo	omg... that would of sucked so hardcore... good thing i wasnt an alpha tester eh? i would of FREAKED!! but then again, Alpha testing would of been proness, cuz they got to play the betas every day, and they are just... gods... but then again, so are beta testers...

May 11, 2005, 04:45 PM // 16:45	#9
Master Elyas Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: People Of The Dragon Profession: W/Mo	lol... i would go and cry... that would just be so PATHETIC!! i wouldnt be able 2 handle it... ... does anyone have a problem with my "chat-talk"? i got a complaint from some anonymous person... ahem.... politely saying to stop doing it... but, im just so used 2 it, that i cant! so, if anyone has a problem with it, ill try and change.... i should create a poll, and see what ppl think..

May 11, 2005, 05:14 PM // 17:14	#10
wongba Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Alliance of Xen [XoO]	i wish they had kept the drops in actually. all u would have to do is wait awhile for the drops to lose their assigned drop name.

May 11, 2005, 05:16 PM // 17:16	#11
Master Elyas Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: People Of The Dragon Profession: W/Mo	oh god.. thats right! thats probably y they changed it..

May 11, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28	#12
Marus Varrus Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Alabama USA Guild: Force of Arms Profession: W/R	Yes say what you wnat but if you think of the henchies as real people they do desrve their cut. ALso it would penalize teams of real players only given a fraction of the loot they would get from partying with AI bots. The way it is now is fair it DOES NOT need to change. I would rather not know what the henchman get.

May 11, 2005, 05:33 PM // 17:33	#13
Master Elyas Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: People Of The Dragon Profession: W/Mo	but, the henchies are NOT real people... and you SHOULD get EVERY drop... its not right that the henchies get drops.. and Marcus, i WOULD like to see what the henchies get.. lol ... ... i just thought of something... where do the items the henchies get go to? theres probably like, this HUGE storage thing where all the items go to, and the AN team, and everyone who contributed to making GW can just pick and choose the "uber 1337" items, and pwn us with them.. lol just my thought

May 11, 2005, 05:36 PM // 17:36	#14
Marus Varrus Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Alabama USA Guild: Force of Arms Profession: W/R	but master the idea is that they represent real people and if they got nothing from the drops everyone would use henchman to get 6x as much loot than they would partying with friends. It would virtually kill what little community that now exists within the PvE game

May 11, 2005, 05:41 PM // 17:41	#15
Master Elyas Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: People Of The Dragon Profession: W/Mo	thats true... your right i guess...

May 11, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56	#18
Adaria Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Florida Guild: Wayward Wanderers Profession: E/Mo	It would be unfair to give us all the gold/items with a band of henchies. They get paid by the share of gold and items that drop. It is frustrating sure, but it would be moreso to see the items that I cannot have... There aren't really any 'uber' items anyway, just those that are more valuable merely due to color, like the golden/yellow items that are more valuable than purple, and purple more valuable than blue. The blue might have the same mods as a gold but be worth less due to the color alone... Interesting way to think about it really...

May 11, 2005, 07:00 PM // 19:00	#19
Master Elyas Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: People Of The Dragon Profession: W/Mo	yea... i guess the henchies get paid, cuz AN wanted it to be more... realistic. but, they stopped the realism at the whole money and item thing... henchies should comment on stuff, like, say: "Don't worry Lord Of The Dawn! I'll save you!" or something like that... or, say stuff like rurik does when he goes to fight charr... except not as cheesy...

May 11, 2005, 07:52 PM // 19:52	#20
Zorque Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005	So what is up with the whole drake hunting craze? I was at Gates of Kryta trying to get a party for the mission but everyone just wanted to do Drake runs. Are Drakes the best place to farm items? Seems like there would be even higher level creatures further down the road that drop better items.